Venessa ([info]mudblood428) wrote,
@ 2008-12-28 19:01:00
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Current location:Back in NOVA
Current mood: contemplative
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A Word on Borders (or "An Unofficial Endorsement")
In these tough economic times, it really makes me sad when I read that my favorite companies are suffering. Today, I read that another Borders out west is shutting down. So in the effort to both vent and say a thing or two to an audience of people who love books as much as I do, or maybe just for posterity's sake, I'm putting down some very quick thoughts on why I love Borders Bookstore more than any other bookstore franchise.

I could talk about how you don't have to pay a red cent to be a Borders Rewards member, while you have to cough up $25 a year to be a Barnes & Noble member. I could probably also say that a cafe doesn't make a bookstore (although if we really want to address the issue, Seattle's Best coffee is better than Starbucks anyway). But what I really want to say is that I am a Borders Bookstore customer because these folks have, in my experience, extended themselves further than B&N to integrate their customers into a tight-knit community of readers. They cater to our schools, host storytime with local kids, and throw the usual blowout events for all of us fandomers that love HP, Twilight, Jodi Picoult, or whatever else gets us excited and decorates the bedside table... only they seem to do it with more style.

Obvious Case In Point: The Borders near me found out I drew Harry Potter stuff, and instead of just letting me continue to do my thing in their cafe unnoticed, they asked if I wanted to do an art show. They promised me the entire top floor. Invite my friends and family, they said. On my birthday. And then, in return for the art show (although I insisted that THEY were doing ME the big favor), they presented me with a free copy of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. A year later, they asked if I was interested in joining other local artists and photographers in decorating their upper level with prints of my artwork - not necessarily because my art is so great (there is a huge art community in Arlington/Alexandria that they could have easily tapped into), but because they have maintained a relationship with me and other creative people in the NOVA area. We recognize the unique environment that our Borders creates for its customers, and we want to be a part of it. Heck, I send the staff at Bailey's Crossroads a homemade holiday card every year, making sure to mention that I drew the picture on the cover in their very own cafe.

So yeah. I don't care about big name alliances. I also don't care that B&N is more popular and has extra knick-knacks for sale that have nothing to do with books or reading. It matters more to me that I can always find an obscure book at the last minute or a version of Pride and Prejudice with the original illustrations in it. I care that the staff is made up of poets and writers and people who don't just want to shake me off if I've got a question. I care that the folks at the front counter make conversation about the latest academic periodical someone is about to purchase. Maybe that's location specific, but if that's the case, our local B&N needs to reexamine their hiring processes.

In an age where technology threatens to make face-to-face customer service obsolete, I'm grateful for my local Borders and ardently hope that they continue to thrive. And that's pretty much all I wanted to say. Back to belated Christmas Card writing. :)

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(Anonymous)
2008-12-29 12:54 am UTC (link)
All that sounds great BUT there are far more B&Ns...and no Borders in about 100 miles of where I live. They should expand, darn it!

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[info]mudblood428
2008-12-29 01:54 am UTC (link)
Well, yeah, that's a given. Trust me, if I could make Borders expand (instead of watching them slowly fade away), I'd do it!

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[info]naiad8
2008-12-29 01:00 am UTC (link)
Out here in SF, the Borders are closing. As an author, I see Borders as an organization that is very schizophrenic. The brick and mortar stores are wonderful, with great community and great customer service, but the large scale distributions behind the scenes is terrible. They will cheat publishers of millions of dollars by ordering huge amounts of books and then instantly returning them, demanding a refund for the books before they have even paid their invoice. This is how the backend keeps up their cashflow. Many publishers have ceased all business with Borders due to this practice. It's very sad that the franchise holders get the bad end, when they are doing an excellent job.

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[info]mudblood428
2008-12-29 01:51 am UTC (link)
Very interesting perspective - I wonder if there isn't something they can do about the "backend" operations before it winds up causing the entire brand to suffer further than it already has! I'm guessing you've had first-hand behind the scenes dealings with them?

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[info]naiad8
2008-12-29 03:05 am UTC (link)
My publisher, ECPI, has lost a great deal of money due to their practices, and it threatened the stability of their print business for several quarters. It was not pretty.

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[info]simons_flower
2008-12-29 01:04 am UTC (link)
I love Borders, too. The nearest Borders to me is 15 miles away in Redmond (right among the evil empire Microsoft) and I'd rather make the trek there than go to Barnes & Noble a 1/2 mile away in town.

That is so cool that they did a show for you! I remember that, but it's still cool.

You must have gotten the same Store Closing notice for the Sacramento store :(

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[info]teenage_hustler
2008-12-29 01:45 am UTC (link)
i love borders too! in australia they're everywhere, and they've got a great vibe about them. They're not so popular in england, where i am at the moment though.
it is sad seeing all of these great little businesses dying, making way for bigger chains with emotionless employees. hopefully your Borders store stays there!

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[info]mudblood428
2008-12-29 01:57 am UTC (link)
I had no idea they were in Australia (or in England for that matter!) I think the downward economic trend is going to have a major impact on some of my favorite places down the road. Not good times. :(

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[info]mudblood428
2008-12-29 01:53 am UTC (link)
You got the notice too?? Man, did that make me sad. I felt the same way when I heard Linens'n'Things was closing!

Anyway, I hear ya on the traveling 15 miles thing - I have a B&N within a mile, but I'll still brave the traffic to head to Bailey's Crossroads for our Borders!

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[info]girlspell
2008-12-29 01:59 am UTC (link)
I love borders. But they are part of Amazon now. So I really don't see them going away. I purchased books from both places. Amazon more then Borders now because of the convenince.

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[info]mudblood428
2008-12-29 02:43 am UTC (link)
Are they really? I had no idea! Well yes, that does make me feel considerably better. :)

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[info]shiiki
2008-12-29 02:12 am UTC (link)
If it makes you feel better, Borders has two stores here (yup, all the way in Asia!) and B&N is nowhere in sight. And Borders is regarded as the most high-class bookstore with the best selection, so it has a great reputation in my country!

Borders = ♥

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[info]mudblood428
2008-12-29 02:45 am UTC (link)
lol - I'm discovering so much more about Borders than I knew before I wrote this post! Well, that's happy news. :) (Also, I had no idea you were in Asia! *internet love*)

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[info]tink_1326
2008-12-29 02:39 am UTC (link)
I always tell people when i die and go to heaven (let's hope) it'll just be one gigantic borders bookstore. I hate it when i have to get a book real quick, cuz i know i will aim for 15 minutes but end up pissing away half the afternoon in there. And they ALWAYS have my dorky science books on sale for like $10. My friends never think that's all that shocking ("who else would buy a book about rocks? I'm surprised they didn't pay you to take it!")

LOVE BORDERS!

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[info]mudblood428
2008-12-29 02:47 am UTC (link)
Oh, forget it! I went there today with the intent of quickly picking up something with my little 25% off coupon, and I definitely pissed away the entire afternoon! (And there is NO shame in getting dorky science books! We dorks have a lot to offer society!)

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[info]lepapillon
2008-12-29 02:39 am UTC (link)
I couldn't agree more with your post! Every Borders experience I've had has been ten times more positive than my B&N experiences. Unfortunately, there are no Borders within close distance to me, while there are at least 3 B&N stores so I end up shopping there more just because it's convenient. I do no however have a book club card. I think it's ridiculous that I have to pay to get a discount. Borders Bucks rock however and make much more sense from a consumer point of view, rewarding you for your other purchases.

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[info]mudblood428
2008-12-29 02:50 am UTC (link)
YEAH SOLIDARITY.

It's a shame you don't have one near you, but per [info]girlspell, Amazon.com is a Borders partner, so that's not so bad!

Either way, I really do think it's absurd to have to pay to be a member of B&N - there are so many ways for them to come out ahead just having a regular rewards card, but NOOoo, they have to get us to cough up an extra $25! *snort*

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[info]hymnia
2008-12-29 03:34 am UTC (link)
Agreed! Borders has long been my favorite of the chain bookstores, for some of the same reasons you mention. Also, as a manga fan, I appreciate that they tend to have a better manga selection and more manga sales than B&N.

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[info]hmrpotter
2008-12-29 04:10 am UTC (link)
I agree with you...I've only been to Borders a handful of times, because they have closed the ones that were in my area. Now, I have to drive 25 miles to Downtown Atlanta to get to the nearest one!

I hope they don't begin closing the ones here...

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[info]__spilled__ink
2008-12-29 04:49 am UTC (link)
I completely agree with you. I have been a Borders customer for ten years and prefer it to Barnes and Noble. Borders is almost like my second home, and I'm sad to learn that their franchise is suffering.

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[info]witherwings7
2008-12-29 05:35 am UTC (link)
I agree with you. I used to be a B&N girl but I go to Borders a lot more now. My local Borders knows me by name and they have all these wonderful events for people.
In a city where it's almost impossible to find a small mom and pop book store, I'm grateful that Borders is at least a large chain that is personable :)

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[info]laloveskt
2008-12-29 05:38 am UTC (link)
Very well said, V. I couldn't agree more. My Borders is vastly more friendly than the B&Ns in my area. Of course, I am a little biased because I spend my undergrad and grad school years employed by Borders via Waldenbooks. They were so accomadating. I could jump from the Walden at school to the Walden at home during the holidays. The managers were quite loyal if you were a good employee. If times ever get tough, I know I can go back to my book family:)

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[info]forcedrhyme
2008-12-29 05:48 am UTC (link)
I worked at my local Borders for the past 2 years (only quitting because I wasn't getting enough hours and I had an issue with the GM) and I have to say, I agree. The Borders staff members always go out of their way for customers, while the BN ones don't. We always used to joke about how you have to have a nerd gene in order to work there. But it's true. The staff members love books, and they don't mind talking to you about them. I miss it.

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[info]kilted
2008-12-29 07:02 am UTC (link)
I wish we had an actual Borders in my area. There's only a tiny Walden Books (which is the same thing) at the mall, and I think it might be going under, sadly. There's a giant B&N right next to the mall, so I suspect people just go there. Sad. I never really like the people at B&N and the whole place just seems so full of itself.

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[info]gilyann
2008-12-29 02:07 pm UTC (link)
I used to love Borders too, but their prices are getting too high lately. This days I only go to their outlet, because with 4 avid readers in the house my book bill could really any help I can find.

I could buy some used but I'm a rather picky buyer in terms of books. If I love the book then I want the Hardcover and I want it new. Sometimes Borders prices are really eye openers. Take for example The Juliet club by Suzanne Harper

Amazon.com - is $13.69
Borders.com and borders - $17.99
Booksamillion.com - 12.22
powells.com - 17.99
Barnes and Noble - 17.99

There is a difference of a few dollars there. The problem that I encounter is that I not only would buy that book, but I buy at the very least three books more. If I buy 4 books (my minimum) and overall I save the same amount we are talking about, I'm talking of at least $20.00 for me.

It makes me sad that they are in financial trouble but to be brutally honest I have to watch out my budget.

I could go and on but this post was longer than I expected so I'll leave it here.

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[info]gilyann
2008-12-29 02:10 pm UTC (link)
Grrr!!! It sucks when you don't have a paid account. My mind always go faster than my fingers type and then if I edit I leave stuff I'm supposed to erase.

**my book bill could really use any help I can find

**we are talking about, of at least $20.00 for me.

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[info]doshi_kitsune
2008-12-31 04:53 am UTC (link)
For those of you who wonder why the book stores themselves cost more than Amazon. The price we have is what the publisher lists the price as. Because most stores only purchase a few copies of each book (normally between 1 and 3) they get the lowest discount from the book distributor. Because of this they must sell the book at the list price to make a profit.

A place like Amazon might purchase anywhere between 100,000 to several million copies of that same book. More copies bought from the distributor/publisher means a bigger discount per book given. This way they can bump up the price but still be less than the list price.

Little bit of bookstore knowledge to those who wish to know. :-)

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[info]lenamoster
2008-12-29 03:38 pm UTC (link)
I agree with you - the only Borders around here for 45 minutes closed down over a year ago, and I've been stuck with B&N and Schulers and it's not the same :( It's really disappointing to me that the good stores get swallowed up.

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[info]springdove
2008-12-30 03:09 am UTC (link)
I'm a huge fan of Borders. Unfortunately, there is no Borders in my town. :P The closest one is in Tallahassee, and as far as I know, it's doing alright. In fact, the only bookstores we have here in town (besides a used one that's never open when you're not working :P ) are Books-A-Million and WaldenBooks (which, I believe, is actually associated with Borders, now that I think of it). Neither has as much selection as the Borders in Tally. But...I take what I can get. :)

I hope you had a fabulous holiday! :)
And Happy New Year!

Edited at 2008-12-30 03:09 am UTC

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[info]lemonade8
2008-12-30 09:11 am UTC (link)
There is a borders about two miles from my home, and it is one of my favorite places to be for the last 14 years(yes, they know my face, and I gave them lots of art materials for their last HP party. They are too sweet). There is one about 15 minutes away, and it is one of the least friendly, poorly stocked book stores with unhelpful service ever. The Barnes and Noble by my work will bend over backward to help me, and I also consider it another haven to be at lunch time. However, the B&N downtown does NOT feel like home at all. I guess it might just be a store to store thing. I have also heard that tptb in corporate Borders has done a lot to mow the stores into the ground. It's a shame when great people and wonderful community has to pay for it.

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[info]doshi_kitsune
2008-12-31 04:49 am UTC (link)
As a Borders employee thanks for the awesome endorsement. And trust me, we need the money if you all want to go book shopping.

And to answer lemonade8. Yes, it is a store to store thing. My store in Orland Park gets a lot of praise from customers, however I find the store in Oak Brook to be quite rude the handful of times I've been in there.

Also, the corporate head honchos of around 3 or 4 years ago really messed us up for their own ends. Things like making the store employees work less hours so that their profit % vs hours spent allowed the corporate people their yearly bonuses. The Corporate head honcho right now is trying to fix things. He started by franchising all the stores overseas, so they can focus on the domestic problems.

But, thanks to the economic fall of the last year, he might be too late.

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[info]ahewlett
2008-12-31 12:02 pm UTC (link)
Thank you very much for my card! I just got it this morning and it's brilliant! Not too sure about the graphic making part but if you ever want more icons done or a banner or anything else, then just ask and I'll do it for you :D

It is strange to think that we've known each other through LJ for...how many years now? Five is it? Or is it more or less? lol It's great yet freaky at the same time. I'll be sending over a birthday card when it's your birthday and it's nearly 27 days before mine comes which is even more odd but enough rambling :)

Thanks for my card once more!!!

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[info]i_eatlostboyz
2009-01-01 08:35 pm UTC (link)
amen, i go to borders whenever i'm feeling blue :)

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[info]orimornie
2009-01-01 11:22 pm UTC (link)
This is a bit of a weird question, but I'll ask anyway. I came over from the [info]harry_potter comm. The photography/art exhibit you mentioned, was it all HP related? Only because I live in Fairfax, out by the Fair Oaks mall and I'm looking for HP cosplayers to do a photo shoot with.

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[info]kismatt
2009-01-03 03:28 pm UTC (link)
And that is why I'll drive the 10 miles to my nearest Borders instead of the 3 to B&N.

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[info]evilpudseybear
2009-01-03 04:35 pm UTC (link)
I agree. I love Borders. My local one has been my place where I can just spend a couple of hours getting lost in their books; their staff are so friendly and don't mind if you spend hours on their sofas reading Harry Potter. When I set up a facebook event for the Deathly Hallows Midnight Party at Borders so my friends could know what was going no, one of their staff members contacted me and told me to come and find them on the night to say hi. I did so, she was lovely and extremely friendly, and gave me a £10 Borders voucher to thank me for setting up the event which basically paid for my Deathly Hallows.

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[info]mirkwoodarcher
2009-01-05 02:05 am UTC (link)
While I gotta admit (shamefully) that I have a B&N card, I gotta go with the fact that Borders is usually much better in all things literary. Hope all is well, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! (Belated, of course =P)

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[info]it_will_cook
2009-02-08 02:43 am UTC (link)
I love rants.
I think that your Borders is awesomer then other Borders or it has yet again been proven that I am not a socialble person. In any case, I hope that nothing TOO bad will happen to Borders.
In my world in which I have "invisible" friends, I haven't noticed that people think that B&N is better then Borders. I certainly like it better. I love to just sit in Borders and reread my favorite parts of HPatDH. After doing that for a bit, my legs are thrown over the arms of my chair and my shoes are off.
So. Yeah. That's my favorite Borders memory, I guess.
*Concluding sentance*

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